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Posted - 2013.05.31 18:53:00 -
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locait wrote:@ CCP Fear As a person who spent over 2 years in a WH and doing mining in said WH I would like to see the survey scanner be more useful when i am mapping out a grav belt to mine while waiting for the sleepers to spawn.
- Survey scanners keep track of all the asteroids i scan even when they are out of range and only updating the ones in scan range.
- The Continuous cycles because i want to know when i can leave as soon as possible.
- Having Orca/Rorqual in fleet will allow miners share a fleet scan of the belt. Were the miners can send their scans to the Orca/Rorqual.
- Show which asteroids are being mined and by who.
As for how i mined in a wh it would be like this. Scan -> map roids -> Kill sleepers -> warp in with barge -> start jet can mining -> pray to not have a cloaky fleet to kill me -> get annoyed that everyone was mining the same roid and only 1 person got the last bit making us waste time in belt. It is not uncommon for the miners, in corp, to have strips spread out to 3 different roids to reduce the lost mining time of the last cycle with all strips on 1 roid.
@ CCP Fear,
Having done my fair share of WH mining over the past year+, I'll echo locait's comments and add a few of my own.
As I see it, Survey scanners really need their ranges increased and what information is returned.
1. A no-implant, maxed out hulk pilot w/ t2 strips & max Rorqual boosted is going to reach out to ~29.5 km. The t2 survey scanner currently only reaches 22km. Not any real difference from the t1 scanner.
2. ORE Faction survey scanners reaching farther than 30 km would be a nice add. IIRC, ORE strips & maxed rorqual boosts will get you near 39km's. I don't have Tau's post on this handy.
3. Scanner results really don't need to be shared - this is nice and I wouldn't argue it being added, but not necessary. What's more important is having enough range and information returned so that you know when to cycle your strips -- e.g. how many m3 or how many "time ticks" are left before a given asteroid is depleted. It is IMPOSSIBLE for an Orca/Rorqual booster to micro-manage a true mining op of 5, 10, 20, 50 hulks (I've been both the miner and the booster in both of those maxed situations).
4. Outside of High-sec, NO ONE parks their Orca in a belt. The Rorqual will always be inside POS shields. It is suicide, plain and simple to put a Rorqual in a belt / Grav site in Low / Null / WHs. I understand the original intent, but it does not work that way in reality.
5. If you have any sway, WH (& Low & Null) Grav sites need to be left as scannable sites, not on d-scans.
6. Continous cycles would be nice. Currently, they cycle in 3 seconds. This is fine for a single shot (and work great for 16 second rorqual boosted venture gas cloud harvestor II cycles btw) ... Change the scanner cycle times to 5 or 10 seconds and allow the module a no-repeat, 3 second, option.
I look forward to more good suggestions -- that are listened to -- on this.
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